Adoption, Cyberpunk Values and the Shift in Power with Temujin Louie

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28 August 2025

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About this Episode

This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Temujin Louie from Wanchain

Temujin Louie, warns that while compromise is inevitable, the industry must not abandon its original cyberpunk values and should focus on solving fundamental problems rather than chasing unsustainable trends. He stresses moving beyond token bridges, avoiding proprietary infrastructure, and aiming for true innovation that delivers lasting, open solutions.

Wanchain is a blockchain interoperability project connecting nearly 40 chains, enabling seamless cross-chain transactions and decentralized applications. Its mission is to replace fragmented, proprietary systems with open, sustainable infrastructure that drives real adoption and innovation.

We spoke to Temujin Louie about Wanchain and:
  • Fear of technology
  • Shift on power
  • Undoubtedly there will have to be some compromise
  • Solve fundamental problems first or cut ourselves out by the knees
  • Adoption and losing some of these values
  • The original vision
  • Cyberpunk values
  • 99% of the industry is not sustainable
  • The next innovative thing that's going to happen
  • Move away from purely just token bridges
  • Replacing core infrastructure with proprietary product is never a good idea
  • An actual win outcome in solving this problem

Timestamps

00:00 – 07:50 : Intro
07:50 -- 09:50 : Shift of power
09:50 -- 11:45 : Social networks
11:45 -- 16:40 : Spectrums
16:40 -- 21:30 : Adoption and values
21:30 -- 26:03 : Growing from the community
26:03 -- 33:25 : Difference between Web2 and Web3
33:25 -- 40:50 : Blockchains bring in real revenue
40:50 -- 46:15 : Bridges and failure point
46:15 -- 52:04 : Cross-chain developer community and tribalism
52:04 -- 53:56 : Biggest myth or misconception about bridges
53:56 -- 58:59 : The Blitz

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