Code Replacing Banks, Convergence of Blockchain and AI with David Pinger

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17 July 2025

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About this Episode

This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features David Pinger from Warden Protocol

David Pinger envisions a future where AI and blockchain merge to enable trust-minimized, autonomous systems. Known for saying “blockchain isn’t for humans,” he challenges conventional thinking with a bold, machine-first perspective.

Warden Protocol is a Layer-1 blockchain designed for secure, verifiable AI integration with smart contracts and autonomous agents. It enables AI-driven applications to operate across multiple chains in a trust-minimized way.

We spoke to David Pinger about Warden Protocol and:
  • Decentralized trust minimized financial system
  • Converging of blockchain and AI
  • The shoes of the founder
  • Majority of startups fail
  • Blockchain as a panacea
  • Blockchain isn't for humans
  • Blockchain and AI can't naturally talk to each other
  • A wave of a new generation of applications
  • Exercise or go crazy

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00:00 – 05:47 : Intro
05:47 -- 10:00 : Valuable lessons brought to Web3
10:00 -- 11:41 : Web3 vs Web2 founders
11:41 -- 13:40 : Developers vs community
13:40 -- 23:00 : Blockchain change
23:00 -- 27:20 : AI centralization
27:20 -- 33:25 : Hype
33:25 -- 38:33 : Optimism, Hope and technology
38:33 -- 48:00 : Tribalism and building community
48:00 -- 52:25 : To be a validator
52:25 -- 58:12 : The Blitz

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